Curse

bhavv · Jan 12, 2008, 04:46 AM // 04:46

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Originally Posted by Torra

Doesn't seem like you even like this game, why the hell are you here then?

I used to love the game that anet have ruined. And the divine auras in question have been requested to be purchasable by many people that didnt buy the CE, they arent extra smilie emotes like what you get in maple story. And since the CE cant be bought anymore a lot of people wanted the divine auras, just like people that wanted the BMP. Just because you dont want to buy the auras doesnt mean that others wouldnt. I dont really care about the BMP so why should Anet bother selling it? Because other people want it? Ok, so wheres my divine auras then?

Trub · Jan 12, 2008, 04:50 AM // 04:50

I missed the promotion period.
I for one will be buying the bonus mission pack.
<3 the weapon skins!

Curse You · Jan 12, 2008, 05:07 AM // 05:07

NEW OFFER! GET GUILD WARS FREE WHEN YOU BUY GUILD WARS 2!

Why can I picture that realistically happening?

@pygar. So what if you only started playing 2 months ago? When I started playing Guild Wars, it was during Wintersday 2005 and because I was still new, I missed out on the hats (among the best ones too). Does that automatically mean that I deserve to get them? No, I missed out, plain and simple.

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Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind

A little obsessed with Orange Box, no? It wasn't even the best FPS released last year, let alone best game.

The Orange box isn't "a game" it's a compilation of games, get it straight.

bhavv · Jan 12, 2008, 05:14 AM // 05:14

Oh yea I missed out on the first haloween too, so gimme the hat too via the ingame store or retail! Oh, and gimme mini polar bez for cash too!

/Sarcasm detector reads PASS

arcanemacabre · Jan 12, 2008, 05:20 AM // 05:20

Nice work, Anet!

Croco Clouds · Jan 12, 2008, 06:35 AM // 06:35

Close this thread for sake... ppl start to get insane

Bowstring Badass · Jan 12, 2008, 06:41 AM // 06:41

GG anet... Not keeping your word. What have you become the NFL?

Anyway they have to get their money somehow they don't charge $15.

Esan · Jan 12, 2008, 06:56 AM // 06:56

Here's what I think Anet/NCSoft's main problem is: they're running out of cash. Their business model is unsustainable given how fast the PC gaming market is shrinking and how little income they have. The pity is that they have invested too much into the free-to-play mythos to back out now.

I hope their financial people are taking a sober look at the situation. You don't have the money for every bell and whistle for GW2. Put some projects in the cryogenic unit to be thawed out and added to the game after release. Break parts of GW2 into modules to be sold separately (players will lap them up as long as modules add useful features). If you need to get rid of some expensive unproductive staff (I am sorely tempted to suggest some), do so. If you are absolutely in dire straits, institute a tiered server system where access for more than 4 hours per day is charged to the player. Or come up with something creative and revolutionary, as you have claimed many times as your forte.

wetsparks · Jan 12, 2008, 07:14 AM // 07:14

They are most definitely not running out of cash. You know the funny thing about money though? You always want more. They saw a really easy way to make money, so they are going to do so.

Motoko Kusanagi War · Jan 12, 2008, 08:41 AM // 08:41

...... Well why they are at it, prophecies collector edition emotes plz....

Jongo River · Jan 12, 2008, 09:26 AM // 09:26

It's called the difference between an exlusive and something you *thought* should be exclusive. The CE stuff was always described as exclusive, therefore you can't have it without buying the CE's.

Syntonic · Jan 12, 2008, 11:15 AM // 11:15

Might want to get the topic back to Anet selling the BMP rather than a tangent about PS3s and games there. I would say most people aren't defending ANET for deciding to sell the BMP because they thought they were going to do so in the first place. There was every indication given that Gaile was trying find players an alternative way to get the BMP without having to purchase through the online store. The fact that it was a promotion and was in no shape or form being advertised as an exclusive was also very clear.

There was a nice write up by a law student by Maseo (post #30) here:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...6&postcount=30
explaining the legality and general wording of relative marketing that you will encounter in life. It's basic stuff that any business major or law student and somewhat general knowledge as he obviously isn't going to be in depth with researching/doing case studies and providing analysis just to make a general point on some random game forum.

Saraphim · Jan 12, 2008, 11:29 AM // 11:29

Lol... £5.99

So, I could have saved myself up to £8.00 by not buying EotN from the online store and then bought the BMP later.

/don't really care but I find it amusing.

dread pirate fargus · Jan 12, 2008, 11:58 AM // 11:58

if people who didnt take advantage of the promotion keep moaning and eventually get a second chance, then if we all keep moaning for you to make GW prophecies CE available again, will you do that too?

lilDeath · Jan 12, 2008, 12:39 PM // 12:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by dread pirate fargus

if people who didnt take advantage of the promotion keep moaning and eventually get a second chance, then if we all keep moaning for you to make GW prophecies CE available again, will you do that too?

/signed ... "The Big Moan"

We can do it!

Dev121 · Jan 12, 2008, 02:25 PM // 14:25

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Originally Posted by WinterSnowblind

A little obsessed with Orange Box, no? It wasn't even the best FPS released last year, let alone best game.

Thats why you play MMO's. Let me guess you think GW was groundbreaking?

ViniousBlade · Jan 12, 2008, 02:53 PM // 14:53

I strongly encourage everyone who is upset about this to contact ANET about it and let them know your displeasure with their actions.

Letters always are stronger than email, here is the mail address:

ArenaNet, Inc.
227 Bellevue Way NE #75
Bellevue, WA 98004

If you must send an email, I think this address is most appropriate:

[email protected]

And for the 100th time, for those who think this is about selfishness, elitism, or happiness in others not having something you have, stop beating that poor strawman to death.

This isn't about you at all. It's not between us and you, it's a beef between us and ANET. I don't care if others can get it, or how they get it. It's about the perception of being lied to and taken advantage of. If they had just re-opened the original offer (buy $30 or whatever in the online store, get it free) and let it go on forever, I would have no problem with it. But turning around and selling it now for only $10 is a kick in the face to those of us they were so strongly "thanking" for buying stuff in the online store.

You guys who want it (and Gaile) can spin it all day long, it doesn't change how this whole thing really went down.

1) The implication was made very strongly that the only way to obtain it was going to be thru the original promotion. Please note I didn't say they promised it. But it was definately a strong implication. It's exclusivity is also proven by the fact that the items are customized. They wanted it to be private and exclusive to those that got it through the promotion.

2) It comes out, and many people want it, and are screaming to give money to ANET.

3) ANET suddenly realizes there is much money to be made. But they also can't be naive enough to realize that people will not be happy about it. So Gaile comes out and starts the leagalese and spin doctoring. It was obvious from that point that it was going to be sold, and they were trying to do a pre-emptive strike on ruffled feathers. Complete waste of time.

This is about integrity and deciet and honor, and nothing else. Something that I thought ANET had, but now it's obvious that they do not.

They are willing to mortage their future vs the short term gain of extra cash now.

If the BMP was a big "thank you" to those who bought stuff in the online store during the promotion, than it's fair to say that selling it now is a big "F#*k you" to us now.

Someone earlier in this thread said that they have been shooting themselves in the foot lately. They've been shooting themselves in the foot for over a year.

How many people left over changes in the past? The 8 player reduced to 6 player HoH matches? Loot scaling? The abandonment of the original Guild Wars model to make GW2? Constant farming nerfs? The list goes on and on.

They have proven they have no integrity and cannot be trusted to keep their word at all. I hope that Guild Wars 2 suffers horribly and leaves them all scrambling to find new jobs.

Dev121 · Jan 12, 2008, 02:57 PM // 14:57

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Originally Posted by ViniousBlade

How many people left over changes in the past? The 8 player reduced to 6 player HoH matches? Loot scaling? The abandonment of the original Guild Wars model to make GW2? Constant farming nerfs? The list goes on and on.

Yet you still play.

Croco Clouds · Jan 12, 2008, 03:11 PM // 15:11

Well, it's too late for u guys to complain about it now, some arguments are good (eventhough I am against them), but u all should of done it a month ago... there was a similar thread

Garadaz · Jan 12, 2008, 03:47 PM // 15:47

Well to tell the truth im happy cause i didnt qualify in time so i didnt get the bonus mission pack , but i also understand the point of the people that wasted alot of money in the online stores for lets say nothing : /